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OH MY GOD JUST KILL ME

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 miles

OH MY GOD JUST KILL ME

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……….oh my

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pintoinlove:

Zachary Quinto talks to HuffPost Live about gay sexuality and provocation
Where do I begin? There are so many things I want to say about the portion of the HP interview I’ve posted above. And I have no doubt that posting these things will lose me followers, gain me hate mail, and who knows what else. But I feel this is something that needs to be said.
It’s clear from watching the HP interview that Zach is not comfortable answering this question. At all. However, he gives it a shot and is vague and eloquent enough to appease the masses (as well as his and Franco’s publicists, I’m sure). Unfortunately this is fandom and we are not the masses. In fact, we’re often made up of the minorities (sexual, social, spiritual).
My initial take away (and initial point of anger) was the impression that, for ZQ, it’s okay for someone like James Franco to use a creative medium to explore and generate dialogue about gay sexuality, but it’s not okay for people like us to do so. And I must admit, as a recognizable member of a community that ZQ himself has publicly shamed on several occasions, this impression is not okay.
Why is it a ‘warranted’ provocation for James Franco, yet an abhorrent and pathological fetish for us? Why is my exploration of sexuality in a safe and anonymous community (an exploration which has allowed me to gain valuable insight, foster fulfilling relationships, and move towards becoming more content in my own life) so blatantly appalling, while Franco’s voyeurism and trolling are commendable?
Though it may not appear so to outsiders, this is a community that engages in constant open discussion and introspection. We are not blind to the opposition that has been shown to us, nor are we immune to some it ourselves. Those contributing to the dialogue are predominantly individuals who openly identify as women or non-binary, most of whom are highly educated, intelligent, and open-minded, with sexualities falling over every length of the spectrum. We are critical and able to appreciate the views coming from of all sides of the debate. That is, until they shame us.
And in my experience it’s been clear that when we’re publicly shamed by celebrities, those around us then think it’s okay to shame us as well.
Personally, I no longer give a damn what ZQ thinks about fanfiction or the idea of Spirk. It’s nothing I’d ever have any desire to ask him about, and I’m content knowing that aside from the occasional awkward question, he doesn’t give the matter a second thought. It’s completely outside of his experience, and that’s more than fine by me.
However, as his fans we share numerous spaces with the rest of his fan base, which like most other fandoms, is made up predominantly of women. We are connected, and we are in constant conversation. But many of these other fans seem to think that it’s okay to threaten, to belittle, and to shame our communities. As someone who has been on the receiving end of numerous hate filled messages I can tell you that such remarks are hurtful, ignorant, and insulting. People with little to no understanding of our communities come in to pass judgment, and attempt to shame us out of existence.
For many, especially those who identify as women or non-binary, getting to a place where they were able to explore and discuss sexuality is difficult enough without then being shamed by a greater and more vocal fandom sect. Those who do so may not realize it, but with every comment, hate message, and eye-roll, what is being conveyed is the shaming of women, by other women, for using a creative outlet to learn more about sexuality, gender, and themselves.

"But I think it’s about what you do with the dialogue once it’s generated that becomes important to our culture." 
This. Right here. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. And I’m not just talking about Trek RPF or Spirk, I’m talking about what we in all fandoms, as a fandom, as fic writers and artists and consumers are already and have been doing for decades. I think it’s important for these actors themselves—who perhaps reluctantly became part of that— to be willing to embrace, to a certain degree. Because while they are the catalysts, they can also be the platform for that discussion. Some of them already have, and that’s really important. But we need more of them to. 

(Many thanks to PiL for a really excellent essay, and especially to Suede for seriously nailing it with insightful commentary once again.) 
I just want to add some context for the questions quoted by PiL because I haven’t seen that put clearly anywhere so far. Those questions refer to ZQ working with James Franco on the movie “Michael”. 
“Michael” is based on the article “My Ex-Gay Friend” by Benoit Denizet-Lewis, which was published in the New York Times in 2011. 
The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction.
The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction with sexual content and a canon slash threesome.
When ZQ refers to playing scenes in which he was told to put out for his pretend beebee James Franco, he’s refering to scenes that portray a real sexual relationship of a real person.
So what’s the big difference between Franco and his movie “Michael” and your average RPF writer?
Well, Franco is a man.
And Franco gets paid for it.

I find this particularly frustrating because I’ve been saying this forever, ever since Zach’s comments came out about fanfiction. But I’m glad someone else is saying it now.  Every single time someone shames you for fanfiction, be aware that it comes down to dollars and dicks. 

I have so, so many issues with this whole discussion, and I have been contemplating whether or not I should chime in, and after seeing ZQ basically be called a misogynist and hypocrite, and the non-Pinto ZQ fanbase being misrepresented as a group that shames other fans, I felt like I had to say something.
First of all, there is a difference between Spirk and Pinto. Zach has NEVER bashed Star Trek fanfic, or Spirk. I am so sick of that quote from last year being through back out about him.  All he said is he has no interest in it. Which is fine. People don’t have to be interested in fanfic; it doesn’t make them bad people.  The only thing he has openly showed opposition to his Pinto, and that’s fine too.  That’s his real life, and he’s allowed to be uncomfortable with people sexualizing a relationship between him and his close friend.  If he thinks it’s disrespectful, then it IS disrespectful.  The person is bothered by something is the one who is allowed to decide if something is bothersome, not the one doing the bothering.  Sure, some actors don’t mind the RPF. But Zach does, and his fans should respect that.
Comparing the movie “Michael” to RPF is a hug stretch in my opinion.  As pointed out by canvuljan in this post, there’s a difference between RPF and a biographical film.  Namely, that the people whose lives are portrayed gave EXPRESS permission for their lives to be portrayed. As far as I know, neither Zachary Quinto or Chris Pine have given such permission. Particularly as a biography is factual, whereas RP is a completely fictionalized version of someone’s actual life.  I honestly don’t see how people cannot see that distinction.  It has nothing to do with James Franco being a man.
On the subject of shaming the Pinto fandom: I will not, and have not done this. It is not my job to police any fandom, and I certainly will not tell people what they can and cannot do with their fandom life.  But I’m allowed to have an opinion, and it is my opinion that Pinto RPF is disrespectful to both Zachary and Chris.  Why? Well, Zach has said himself that he finds it disrespectful, and that’s honestly all I need to hear, as it’s his life that is the subject of these fics.  And I’m not going to shy away from stating that opinion. That is not shaming anyone, it’s just a different viewpoint.
The point about exploring sexuality and forming connections with others in fandom is a valid one, but I don’t see why that cannot be done without basing your stories on real life people (especially when one of those people is so obviously uncomfortable with it). Why not just stick to fictional characters? As many have pointed out, Spirk is the original slash pair. What better way to begin discussions on sexuality? I don’t see how Zach or Chris has to come into the equation at all.
And finally, since Zach has been such a huge disappointment to so many beans, why not pick another actor to cast in your RPFs? It certainly can’ be fun not liking, and in some instances that I’ve seen, actively disliking, one half of your OTP. If you hate Zach so much, MOVE ON. Nobody is forcing you to be his fan.

Okay so like, please have all the opinions you want but before stating them:
First KNOW what you’re talking about. Are you in the Pinto fandom or at least explored it enough? You seem to think we enjoy it when people confront ZQ with Pinto or Spirk shit and we DO NOT.
No one is actually hating on Zach but you’re not here for that are you? I suppose the only bad thing he’s done is a little fat shaming on Twitter (which he never apologized for) but again, no one is actually hating on him.
back to my first point, your understanding of the RPF fandom is basically: you heard what it was, didn’t like it and proceeded to make lots of assumptions and now here you are
the non-Pinto ZQ fanbase being misrepresented as a group that shames other fans, I felt like I had to say something. and everything you said was wholly unnecessary and long winded and boils down to: “We’re not bullies!!! you guys are just weird fans!!”


lolol. “fuck off for real” in your tags. okay…I’ve been around ZQ fandom long enough to have been adequately exposed to RPF. It’s unavoidable. I’m allowed to not like it. I never said anything bad about you or anyone else that does. And no, I don’t think beans constantly want to confront Zach with RPF, but the fact remains that it’s happened on more than one occasion. If you have to constantly apologize for your fandom, then yeah, there’s something wrong with your fandom. And I never said all beans hate ZQ, but some do. I’ve seen it in response to this very post! ppl have posted in their tags that Zach’s not a good person and that they dislike him. I don’t understand being his fan if that’s true.

Okay that’s ridiculous. Well, he’s gay, and if he refuse to discuss about gay sexuality with you, that’s unfair and from your opinion, he’s callous. First thing is, what you want to”discuss” with him exactly? I mean, if you want to explore gay sexuality, thousands of websites, researches, papers are available, why must him? Second, look at your name. Guess there’s no clause provides any actors or individuals need to take responsibility for your daydream. And right, so SHAME about PINTO when some of you show disrespect to their private life and even insult the partners of those you claim you ship in real life.

eserei27:

startrekxii:

eserei27:

artlesstumbles:

juno-magic:

suedescripture:

pintoinlove:

Zachary Quinto talks to HuffPost Live about gay sexuality and provocation

Where do I begin? There are so many things I want to say about the portion of the HP interview I’ve posted above. And I have no doubt that posting these things will lose me followers, gain me hate mail, and who knows what else. But I feel this is something that needs to be said.

It’s clear from watching the HP interview that Zach is not comfortable answering this question. At all. However, he gives it a shot and is vague and eloquent enough to appease the masses (as well as his and Franco’s publicists, I’m sure). Unfortunately this is fandom and we are not the masses. In fact, we’re often made up of the minorities (sexual, social, spiritual).

My initial take away (and initial point of anger) was the impression that, for ZQ, it’s okay for someone like James Franco to use a creative medium to explore and generate dialogue about gay sexuality, but it’s not okay for people like us to do so. And I must admit, as a recognizable member of a community that ZQ himself has publicly shamed on several occasions, this impression is not okay.

Why is it a ‘warranted’ provocation for James Franco, yet an abhorrent and pathological fetish for us? Why is my exploration of sexuality in a safe and anonymous community (an exploration which has allowed me to gain valuable insight, foster fulfilling relationships, and move towards becoming more content in my own life) so blatantly appalling, while Franco’s voyeurism and trolling are commendable?

Though it may not appear so to outsiders, this is a community that engages in constant open discussion and introspection. We are not blind to the opposition that has been shown to us, nor are we immune to some it ourselves. Those contributing to the dialogue are predominantly individuals who openly identify as women or non-binary, most of whom are highly educated, intelligent, and open-minded, with sexualities falling over every length of the spectrum. We are critical and able to appreciate the views coming from of all sides of the debate. That is, until they shame us.

And in my experience it’s been clear that when we’re publicly shamed by celebrities, those around us then think it’s okay to shame us as well.

Personally, I no longer give a damn what ZQ thinks about fanfiction or the idea of Spirk. It’s nothing I’d ever have any desire to ask him about, and I’m content knowing that aside from the occasional awkward question, he doesn’t give the matter a second thought. It’s completely outside of his experience, and that’s more than fine by me.

However, as his fans we share numerous spaces with the rest of his fan base, which like most other fandoms, is made up predominantly of women. We are connected, and we are in constant conversation. But many of these other fans seem to think that it’s okay to threaten, to belittle, and to shame our communities. As someone who has been on the receiving end of numerous hate filled messages I can tell you that such remarks are hurtful, ignorant, and insulting. People with little to no understanding of our communities come in to pass judgment, and attempt to shame us out of existence.

For many, especially those who identify as women or non-binary, getting to a place where they were able to explore and discuss sexuality is difficult enough without then being shamed by a greater and more vocal fandom sect. Those who do so may not realize it, but with every comment, hate message, and eye-roll, what is being conveyed is the shaming of women, by other women, for using a creative outlet to learn more about sexuality, gender, and themselves.

"But I think it’s about what you do with the dialogue once it’s generated that becomes important to our culture." 

This. Right here. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. And I’m not just talking about Trek RPF or Spirk, I’m talking about what we in all fandoms, as a fandom, as fic writers and artists and consumers are already and have been doing for decades. I think it’s important for these actors themselves—who perhaps reluctantly became part of that— to be willing to embrace, to a certain degree. Because while they are the catalysts, they can also be the platform for that discussion. Some of them already have, and that’s really important. But we need more of them to. 

(Many thanks to PiL for a really excellent essay, and especially to Suede for seriously nailing it with insightful commentary once again.)

I just want to add some context for the questions quoted by PiL because I haven’t seen that put clearly anywhere so far. Those questions refer to ZQ working with James Franco on the movie “Michael”.

“Michael” is based on the article “My Ex-Gay Friend” by Benoit Denizet-Lewis, which was published in the New York Times in 2011.

The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction.

The movie “Michael” is Real Person Fiction with sexual content and a canon slash threesome.

When ZQ refers to playing scenes in which he was told to put out for his pretend beebee James Franco, he’s refering to scenes that portray a real sexual relationship of a real person.

So what’s the big difference between Franco and his movie “Michael” and your average RPF writer?

Well, Franco is a man.

And Franco gets paid for it.

I find this particularly frustrating because I’ve been saying this forever, ever since Zach’s comments came out about fanfiction. But I’m glad someone else is saying it now.  Every single time someone shames you for fanfiction, be aware that it comes down to dollars and dicks. 

I have so, so many issues with this whole discussion, and I have been contemplating whether or not I should chime in, and after seeing ZQ basically be called a misogynist and hypocrite, and the non-Pinto ZQ fanbase being misrepresented as a group that shames other fans, I felt like I had to say something.

First of all, there is a difference between Spirk and Pinto. Zach has NEVER bashed Star Trek fanfic, or Spirk. I am so sick of that quote from last year being through back out about him.  All he said is he has no interest in it. Which is fine. People don’t have to be interested in fanfic; it doesn’t make them bad people.  The only thing he has openly showed opposition to his Pinto, and that’s fine too.  That’s his real life, and he’s allowed to be uncomfortable with people sexualizing a relationship between him and his close friend.  If he thinks it’s disrespectful, then it IS disrespectful.  The person is bothered by something is the one who is allowed to decide if something is bothersome, not the one doing the bothering.  Sure, some actors don’t mind the RPF. But Zach does, and his fans should respect that.

Comparing the movie “Michael” to RPF is a hug stretch in my opinion.  As pointed out by canvuljan in this post, there’s a difference between RPF and a biographical film.  Namely, that the people whose lives are portrayed gave EXPRESS permission for their lives to be portrayed. As far as I know, neither Zachary Quinto or Chris Pine have given such permission. Particularly as a biography is factual, whereas RP is a completely fictionalized version of someone’s actual life.  I honestly don’t see how people cannot see that distinction.  It has nothing to do with James Franco being a man.

On the subject of shaming the Pinto fandom: I will not, and have not done this. It is not my job to police any fandom, and I certainly will not tell people what they can and cannot do with their fandom life.  But I’m allowed to have an opinion, and it is my opinion that Pinto RPF is disrespectful to both Zachary and Chris.  Why? Well, Zach has said himself that he finds it disrespectful, and that’s honestly all I need to hear, as it’s his life that is the subject of these fics.  And I’m not going to shy away from stating that opinion. That is not shaming anyone, it’s just a different viewpoint.

The point about exploring sexuality and forming connections with others in fandom is a valid one, but I don’t see why that cannot be done without basing your stories on real life people (especially when one of those people is so obviously uncomfortable with it). Why not just stick to fictional characters? As many have pointed out, Spirk is the original slash pair. What better way to begin discussions on sexuality? I don’t see how Zach or Chris has to come into the equation at all.

And finally, since Zach has been such a huge disappointment to so many beans, why not pick another actor to cast in your RPFs? It certainly can’ be fun not liking, and in some instances that I’ve seen, actively disliking, one half of your OTP. If you hate Zach so much, MOVE ON. Nobody is forcing you to be his fan.

Okay so like, please have all the opinions you want but before stating them:

  1. First KNOW what you’re talking about. Are you in the Pinto fandom or at least explored it enough? You seem to think we enjoy it when people confront ZQ with Pinto or Spirk shit and we DO NOT.
  2. No one is actually hating on Zach but you’re not here for that are you? I suppose the only bad thing he’s done is a little fat shaming on Twitter (which he never apologized for) but again, no one is actually hating on him.
  3. back to my first point, your understanding of the RPF fandom is basically: you heard what it was, didn’t like it and proceeded to make lots of assumptions and now here you are
  4. the non-Pinto ZQ fanbase being misrepresented as a group that shames other fans, I felt like I had to say something. and everything you said was wholly unnecessary and long winded and boils down to: “We’re not bullies!!! you guys are just weird fans!!”

lolol. “fuck off for real” in your tags. okay…

I’ve been around ZQ fandom long enough to have been adequately exposed to RPF. It’s unavoidable. I’m allowed to not like it. I never said anything bad about you or anyone else that does.

And no, I don’t think beans constantly want to confront Zach with RPF, but the fact remains that it’s happened on more than one occasion. If you have to constantly apologize for your fandom, then yeah, there’s something wrong with your fandom.

And I never said all beans hate ZQ, but some do. I’ve seen it in response to this very post! ppl have posted in their tags that Zach’s not a good person and that they dislike him. I don’t understand being his fan if that’s true.

Okay that’s ridiculous. Well, he’s gay, and if he refuse to discuss about gay sexuality with you, that’s unfair and from your opinion, he’s callous.
First thing is, what you want to”discuss” with him exactly? I mean, if you want to explore gay sexuality, thousands of websites, researches, papers are available, why must him?
Second, look at your name. Guess there’s no clause provides any actors or individuals need to take responsibility for your daydream. And right, so SHAME about PINTO when some of you show disrespect to their private life and even insult the partners of those you claim you ship in real life.

prestonhymas:

mrcaptaincook:

kinesin (a motor protein) pulling a some kind of vesicle along some kind of cytoskeletal filament
via John Liebler at Art of the Cell

makin’ my way downtown
walkin’ fast
faces pass
I’m home bound 
doo doo deda lee doo

fascinating

prestonhymas:

mrcaptaincook:

kinesin (a motor protein) pulling a some kind of vesicle along some kind of cytoskeletal filament

via John Liebler at Art of the Cell

makin’ my way downtown

walkin’ fast

faces pass

I’m home bound 

doo doo deda lee doo

fascinating

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llap-zacharyquinto:

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looks like Pierce Brosnan…

llap-zacharyquinto:

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looks like Pierce Brosnan…

hommesclub:

Victor Norlander | Robert Geller SS15 MBFW New York

hommesclub:

Victor Norlander | Robert Geller SS15 MBFW New York

fashiondailymag:

Selfie time with Alexander ferrario backstage at Robert geller #nyfw #alexanderferrario #brigittesegura #menswear  (at Pier 59 Studios)

Hi;) I wonder did you see Victor Norlander? Great pics, love them

fashiondailymag:

Selfie time with Alexander ferrario backstage at Robert geller #nyfw #alexanderferrario #brigittesegura #menswear (at Pier 59 Studios)

Hi;) I wonder did you see Victor Norlander? Great pics, love them

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Miles McMillan for Richard Chai Love S/S 2015  x

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Miles McMillan for Richard Chai Love S/S 2015  x